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From ANON - eri on May 19, 2016
why men well not real men...tavington continue to defend common whores is beyond me. as a widow this slut (who im still praying dies horribly and painfully) would have good status. i assume she would habe a military stipend and being a widow is honorable annnd yet in true whore fashion she decides to be ut of the year. ease kill her off in a hideously gory way
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From ANON - eri on May 15, 2016
nope changed my mind. i dont know why u have such sympathy for these pathetic flowers. i would like to see tavington HIMSELF burn these bitches..so what i mean is he falls madly in love with carine and tell this jane whore to beat it, making her cry and beg in front of the whole fort causing a scene, then kick jer out penniless and let her and her bastard kid rot. it should be done by him for maximum pain. she should feel as useless and pathetic and unwanted as possible until she decides ro end her lofe out of misery...she hangs herself in the woods and her bastard kid dies of exposure. she knows she is alone unwanted amd abandoned....yesssss. no one likes these losers or feels bad for them so not sure why they keep popping up
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From ANON - eri on May 15, 2016
ok see so this should be the character of caroline when she finds the pathetic slut jane pregnant...befriend her then shove her in a fast flowing creek with her dresses on so she drowns or go for a horse ride and kick her off HARD with your foot or spook the horse...oopsy wasnt my fault ugly ass tavington that ur slut took a fall sorry to say ur ugly kid amd she wont make it. i really really loathe weak ass females
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From ANON - eri on May 15, 2016
ughhh god u really love adding useless whore like jane, there was another one in another story and then pathetic weepy women who will accept said whore or accept their "fate" id like to see it switched up with a strong woman protaganist. and then kick that Jane bitch off a cliff. the only joy i get reading this is when she cries like the pathetic camp slut she is
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From ANON - eri on May 15, 2016
ughhh god u really love adding useless whore like jane, there was another one in another story and then pathetic weepy women who will accept said whore or accept their "fate" id like to see it switched up with a strong woman protaganist. and then kick that Jane bitch off a cliff. the only joy i get reading this is when she cries like the pathetic camp slit she is
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From ANON - eri on May 14, 2016
i actually like general ohara. i think he knows what an asshole tavington is. love the part in the movie where he stops tavington at the fort from going after martin....he totally emasculates that asshole it's awesome
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From ANON - guest on October 09, 2014
Lovely story!
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From zairaphel on December 20, 2007
I absolutely loved this story. It's one I've come back to quite a few times. I don't know what it is, but there is just something about it that draws the reader in. Also, it is a shame you've received such criticism about this story. It's completely unwarranted.
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From ANON - Lycione on October 10, 2005
Speaking of bitchy posters Arsinoe could use a break from debating if she can't stay on topic when discussing an argument presented before her. Grammar doesn't make a good story, it's purely technical this story suffered from weak characterization - Tavington was too evil, Caroline was too weak. They didn't mesh well and she was lusting after him the whole time with not anything else going on.
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From ANON - Alcyone on September 21, 2005
Hey guys, its just a story relax. A review section is not really the place to be bitchy(I'm looking at you Lynx).
To get back on topic I enjoyed the story without reading to much into it. The grammer and spelling were correct as far as I could see. Overall good story, interesting premise, competently done.
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From ANON - Lynx on September 13, 2005
That's a whole lot of words to say a whole lot of nothing. The conditions of how men were trialed in cases of rape during that time is completely irrelevant to the point I'm making. No shit there would be no story without the rape, and nor how sadistic Tavington was in the other story has any bearing in this. The author did not show a 3 dimensional character. Caroline's actions throughout mid-way of the story was flakey at best, pretentious cheap dialogue with an unrealistic attitude. Her actions spoke of a victim not raped, how hard is that for your brain to compute? The fact that she stayed in the relationship with him is not what I'm disputing either. She may be able to forgive or give in to her marriage with Tavington, but during that timespan from the point she was raped until the time she gave in, is where the author failed the character of any realization.

Get it now?
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From ANON - Arsinoe on September 04, 2005
My, my. "Long-winded rant?" I seem to have hit a nerve, for your rant was equally long. Hmmm. Yes, I did read your review. I disagree with it.

Yes, I've read "All's Fair." This is not the place to discuss another author's work, but since you make an issue of it, fine. I'm glad you like "All's Fair." It's a very well-written story. However, I have problems with it because of its historical flaws. All the heroine would have had to do in that situation is get on a horse and tell Cornwallis what had happened (or even send a letter). Tavington would have been cashiered. There are two documented cases of exactly what happened in cases of rape in the British Legion. Two men were hanged, and the others sentenced to near-fatal floggings. Of course, unless Tavington gets away with rape, there is no plot. In addition, I don't particularly care for the characterization of a overtly sadisitic Tavington, going back repeatedly and playing with a helpless woman. It's simply not to my taste. Besides, when would he have the time? Too many Tavington fics seem to posit a world in which he can spend unlimited time obsessing over the heroine. A one-shot crime of opportunity seemed more believable to me.

I have no idea why you persist in flaming this author. Part of the reason I replied to the review in the first place was its unnecessarily rude and nasty tone. It's a puzzle to me why good stories are flamed and the masses of tripe on this site are given a pass. You write very well. Why not write your own fic that expresses clearly how you think this situation should be dealt with? It's always the best answer when you feel that other authors have just not grasped a concept fully. Of course, you might put yourself in the position of having a story you have spent a great deal of effort into creating being flamed (there is such a thing as a constructively critical review).

I stand by my analysis of this story. Call it brainwashing, call it conditioning, call it Stockholm Syndrome if you will, but women throughout history have been forced into marriage under dreadful conditions and they've had to find a way to live with it, however horrible that sounds. It's not clear to me what kind of "emotional" rebellion you mean. Would it be physically helpful for Caroline to provoke Tavington into more outright violence? And would it be emotionally helpful to her? At some point, a woman with no means of redress must either break down or find a way to forgive.

So, how about giving it a rest?
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From ANON - Arsinoe on September 04, 2005
My, my. "Long-winded rant?" I seem to have hit a nerve, for your rant was equally long. Hmmm. Yes, I did read your review. I disagree with it.

Yes, I've read "All's Fair." This is not the place to discuss another author's work, but since you make an issue of it, fine. I'm glad you like "All's Fair." It's a very well-written story. However, I have problems with it because of its historical flaws. All the heroine would have had to do in that situation is get on a horse and tell Cornwallis what had happened (or even send a letter). Tavington would have been cashiered. There are two documented cases of exactly what happened in cases of rape in the British Legion. Two men were hanged, and the others sentenced to near-fatal floggings. Of course, unless Tavington gets away with rape, there is no plot. In addition, I don't particularly care for the characterization of a overtly sadisitic Tavington, going back repeatedly and playing with a helpless woman. It's simply not to my taste. Besides, when would he have the time? Too many Tavington fics seem to posit a world in which he can spend unlimited time obsessing over the heroine. A one-shot crime of opportunity seemed more believable to me.

I have no idea why you persist in flaming this author. Part of the reason I replied to the review in the first place was its unnecessarily rude and nasty tone. It's a puzzle to me why good stories are flamed and the masses of tripe on this site are given a pass. You write very well. Why not write your own fic that expresses clearly how you think this situation should be dealt with? It's always the best answer when you feel that other authors have just not grasped a concept fully. Of course, you might put yourself in the position of having a story you have spent a great deal of effort into creating being flamed (there is such a thing as a constructively critical review).

I stand by my analysis of this story. Call it brainwashing, call it conditioning, call it Stockholm Syndrome if you will, but women throughout history have been forced into marriage under dreadful conditions and they've had to find a way to live with it, however horrible that sounds. It's not clear to me what kind of "emotional" rebellion you mean. Would it be physically helpful for Caroline to provoke Tavington into more outright violence? And would it be emotionally helpful to her? At some point, a woman with no means of redress must either break down or find a way to forgive.

So, how about giving it a rest?
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From ANON - Lynx on August 23, 2005
Did you read my post? Obviously you did not, otherwise you wouldn't have gone off on your longwinded misplaced rant, *Yawn*. Many women back from those times were locked into positions from which they could not escape; I am not disputing how life was for women in those times or why she didn't run away, what I am debating is Caroline's attitude involving the situation. You think that just because she's in a forced marriage it's pointless for Caroline to display anger and other range of emotions, because she can't do anything with her anger? So what she can't take him to a marriage counselor or some other nonsense, the point is to show the reader that in fact this woman is a human being who is hurting from a devastating trauma and how is the story going to evolve from that? And yes, some actions taken back then concerning rape of women, may not be the same actions that today�s women take, but either way the point is to show the emotion of that character realistically, which the author did not do.

Anger? What exactly can an 18th century married woman do with her anger? Kill her husband and hang? Take him to court? Take him to a marriage counselor?

Get a clue. Don't tell me on one page a woman is raped by her husband, and in the next her attitude is that of a woman that has never suffered the emotional distress of rape and is not the least bit resentful of her husband. That is why I asked the author, where is Caroline's anger and thoughts in all of this? This can be described no better than Stockholm Syndrome, identifying with the perpetrator instead of rebelling. Just in case you misinterpret, rebelling doesn't necessarily mean physical, it could be an emotional rebellion.

When I read a story about a woman's rape, I expect the writer to convey the complexities of the situation - the anger, the sadness, the emotional turmoil within the character, leading to a confrontation and eventually a resolution between the victim and the attacker about the subject, and then to move on from there. This was not done, she was raped and the author proceeded within the next chapters, having Caroline giving him a bath and giggling over his hotness. Deplorable. I kept waiting, but the story never confronted the issue of the rape or the slaughter of her brothers, just drifted along with her self-delusion of what a "great guy" Tavington is and then ended there. Disgusting. However most importantly, the writer failed to show Tavington had any remorse for what he had done to Caroline and his treatment to Jane (supposedly who he really loved), leaving all the making up (dealing with the rape and overcoming it) left for Caroline to deal with. You can write all the pretty words you want and have a good grasp of grammar, but if you can't structure your story with a well designed plot or characters does it really matter how fucking well you string a sentence together? Post Memnoch the Devil, author Anne Rice comes to mind.

Take a look at the Tavington fic, �All�s Fair� by Iris Rosalind. The setup is similar to this story � a woman is raped and falls for her rapist, however Ms. Rosalind understands the meaning of character growth and is excellent at showing the reader the horror of this woman�s situation.

http://www.geocities.com/iris_rosalind/allsfair_ch1.html

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From ANON - Arsinoe on August 16, 2005
I really don't agree with the previous reviewer. I think this story does an excellent job setting its place and time, and the plot must be seen in that context. Anger? What exactly can an 18th century married woman do with her anger? Kill her husband and hang? Take him to court? Take him to a marriage counselor? We are talking about a time in wihich women are chattels, can own no property within marriage, and in which the concept of spousal rape is unknown. Arranged marriages were common, and it was not unknown for girls to be locked in their rooms until their wedding day. So what should Caroline, penniless and pregnant, do? Should she run away? In the midst of war? Where? How? Her own father acknowledges her husband's right of possession. If she goes elsewhere, what could a pregnant young girl do? Well, we know that she would have a good statistical chance of becoming a prostitute. Is that better? Don't think so. We could have her run off and have some sort of brilliant career, but thus are Mary Sues born. I'm aware that there were remarkable women in the period, but Caroline is not depicted as a person of great maturity or extraordinary talent. Furthermore, all we have to do is look at contemporary traditional societies to see examples of marriage by rape, capture, or kidnapping, to get an idea of how women realistically deal with these dreadful circumstances. In our own comfortable, developed First World societies, women have many choices. In traditional societies, women have very few.
As to sneering at the campfollower--what is she supposed to say? That Tavington isn't hot? He's her livelihood, the father of her child, and her only hope of not having to walk the streets, so to speak. Actually, the story is an interesting study of functional polygamy. There are some real life examples in the period. Major Patrick Ferguson had a pair of mistresses that he toted about with him: The Duke of Devonshire lived with both his wife and his mistress. It's a mistake to imagine that all "old-time" people had Victorian social mores. The Victorians were largely reacting to what they viewed as the license of the Georgian period.

And please don't flame me with a diatribe about the horrible crime of rape, and how it's a crime of power. I've heard it all before. (And I believe that's the theme of the story) Obviously rape is monstrous, but to expect someone from a different society to have or make the choices available now is not reasonable. Nor would the victim's reactions necessarily be identical to a woman in our own place and time (and even now then there are wide, individualistic variations). Caroline endeavors to survive in the best way she can, and she succeeds. In fact, as we see the couple in the epilogue, it is evident that fatherhood and domesticity have at least somewhat tamed Tavington, and shown him Caroline's worth. She will always have the high moral ground in their relationship, and that would actually count for a good deal. Indeed, I'm rather relieved that the author didn't turn the character as presented in canon into a big gooey old sweetheart, humbliy begging his wife on bended knee for absolution. That is for soap operas.

So--Stockholm Syndrome? Hell, yes. That's a modern term for what many past and present societies would call a happy marriage. Horrible, but true.

While I'm at it, I would like to point out how well written this story is. Sound plot, good dialogue. After seeing scores of empty-headed squeeing fangirl fics, this is a great pleasure, and very good historical fiction.
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